In this episode, we’re joined by Nora Murphy Johnson, co-founder of Creative Evaluation, which focuses on evaluation for truth, beauty, and justice. In a conversation about evaluation for healing and change, evaluation as sacred work and a noble calling, Nora tells us about the winding path she has taken as an evaluator, how her relationship with her husband, an artist and evaluator himself, informs the work they do together, how she’s working to bring embodiment to her practice and why it matters, and gives us a glimpse into how the first Creative Evaluation cohort is exploring new ways to understand and do evaluation. It’s a beautiful and powerful conversation filled with touching and profound insights on how we can, in Nora’s words, do “heart-centred evaluation”.
CONTENT NOTE: To help you make an informed decision about when and how you want to listen to this episode, we wanted to let you know that this episode will touch on the death of a young child from illness as well as systemic racist violence and the implications of this for loved ones.
Creative Evaluation Resources
- Essential Threads
- The Calling of Creative Evaluators
- Creative Evaluation Twitter account
- Creative Evaluation 2019 Cohort
- Beyond the Non-Profit Industrial Complex, INCITE!
- “The master’s tools will never dismantle the master’s house”, Audre Lorde
- Principles-Focused Evaluation: The Guide, Michael Quinn Patton (you can read more about Nora’s story in the chapter she contributed, “Waking Lumina: A Personal Principles-Based Evaluation Philosophy”)
- Between the World and Me, Ta-Nehisi Coates
- My Grandmother’s Hands: Racialized Trauma and the Pathway to Mending Our Hearts and Bodies, Resmaa Menakem
- The Body Keeps the Score: Brain, Mind, and Body in the Healing of Trauma, Bessel Van Der Kolk
- Trauma Stewardship: An Everyday Guide to Caring for Self While Caring for Others, Laura van Dernoot Lipsky
- Evaluating with Validity, Ernest R. House
- Eval Cafe episodes 16, 18, and 20
- Developmental Evaluation Institute guiding principles
- Mā te Rae Indigenous Peoples’ Conference on Evaluation
- Good Ancestor Podcast, Episode 8 with Latham Thomas
Not Mentioned In The Episode But Relevant